US vs. UK Storytelling

US vs. UK...
US vs. UK…

Some of them just didn’t believe me. “An American storyteller telling folktales? Don’t they all just do autobiographical stories?”

Let me tell you part of a story…

In 2012 I had the real pleasure of telling stories at the Beyond the Border Wales International Storytelling Festival. It’s a wonderful every-other-year storytelling festival – You should go!

I’d met the program/artistic director, David Ambrose, 2 years earlier when we’d both been performing at the Rome International Storytelling Festival. There he’d heard me tell “Uncle Olaus Survives the Titanic,” the true story of my great-uncle who was one of the relatively few third-class male passengers to survive the tragedy. I’ve been telling that story for 25 years, but there was something uniquely powerful in that particular telling – to an audience made up of people from many of the countries who had sent their people on that hopeful, for some desperate, voyage.

BtBccAfterward, David asked me if I’d be interested in telling that story at Beyond the Border in 2012, the 100th anniversary of the Titanic’s sinking. He didn’t have to ask me twice!

It was a wonderful experience at a magnificent international storytelling festival…

Beyond the Border takes place on the fairy-tale-castle grounds of St. Donats Castle, south of Cardiff. There are performance venues throughout, from indoor halls to outdoor lawns and several large tents.

I’m not altogether certain if it was the first year for it, but there was a specific tent called “The People’s Palace”

– and it was dedicated to stories from “real life” rather than traditional tales such as myths, folk and fairy tales…the stuff of all the other venues throughout the festival. It was where I held 3 of my 4 shows: 2 tellings of the Titanic story, and one of “Looking for Grandpa’s Island,” the personal-experience story of my looking for the Norwegian island where my grandfather and my last name came from. (I also had one performance of telling folktales in The Family Tent.)

I had wonderful and appreciative audiences, with sizable crowds in the tent.

But there were many, many people at the festival who it seems you could not have paid to go into The People’s Palace. At all.

And especially lots of the other performing storytellers.

I heard:  “That’s not real storytelling.” “Why would I want to hear about something the storyteller did?” “Those American-style stories…” “That autobiographical storytelling – doesn’t belong here.”  And more…

They typically used the phrase “autobiographical stories” rather than “personal stories.” And it became clear to me that “American storytelling” EQUALLED “autobiographical/personal stories” in many, many of their minds.

Many people, and especially the UK/European storytellers, expressed real surprise to learn, upon being introduced to me as an American storyteller, that I tell folk tales. And that, in fact, the majority of my repertoire is folk/traditional tales. Some of them looked like they didn’t believe me, and actually took some real convincing.

It was clear to me that “American storytelling” equated, in their minds, with “personal storytelling.”

It kind of blew my mind.

But then, so has the exploding popularity of story slams in the US…and it seems that UK awareness of US story slamming has translated into “that’s what storytelling IS in the US now, and THAT’S what American storytellers and storytelling is all about.”

Which surprises me, and makes me kind of sad, actually.

And gives more food for thought…on many fronts.

At least this was what I observed, heard, and experienced in 2012.  Really, I heard it over and over…

What do YOU think of this perception – that “American storytelling ‘equals’ personal/autobiographical storytelling”-?

Thanks for reading – Pam

[In this blog I often try to use photos I’ve taken.  The one at the top I took in Yorkshire. The other I took at Beyond the Border in Wales.]

Comments

16 responses to “US vs. UK Storytelling”

  1. Carolyn Stearns Avatar

    I wonder, where does that perception come from. Could it be that the groups/ organizations behind the slam movement are doing a better job of outreach so that’s what they are hearing about? I am thinking Yes, when I think of the volume of Moth videos online, the great job massmouth has done in promoting their story scene in greater Boston and some of the other slam groups getting the word out on Facebook, Twitter and other social sites. Here is a challenge to get storytellers commenting and posting about all the genre they share so we can shift the perception to align with the reality.

    1. Pam Faro Avatar
      Pam Faro

      Carolyn, I think you’ve identified something important here. Thanks so much for commenting!

    2. Tim Ereneta (@tereneta) Avatar

      This was a perception long before MassMouth’s success, long before the Moth took off. American storytellers were asking the “why so many personal stories” question at the NAPPS conference in 2000, and when I came back from the 21st National Storytelling Festival in 1994 I reported to my friends that I had to sit through two hours of “Grandpa fell off the ladder” stories to get to hear one traditional tale.

  2. Marilie Avatar
    Marilie

    I was very surprised to read about UK believing we only tell personal stories. My experience is I almost never hear personal stories. I have only told one personal story myself about moving into a house with a cat door that my two cats would not use, but the stray cat loved coming in to eat the butter on the counter. It would be interesting to find out how that came about. Maybe it is that the story slams are more noticed than the festivals, etc.?

    1. Pam Faro Avatar
      Pam Faro

      Yes – noticed, publicized, etc. And of course it’s not like no one in the UK believes any folk tales are told here at all… (My “vs.” title is of course intentionally a little provocative!) But the story as I told it here IS what I experienced at that festival!

  3. Sheila Arnold Jones Avatar

    Carolyn, I think you bring up a real interesting point about Moth having things online. I remember putting on the Storytellers FB page a question about videotaping during concerts, and the majority said “no”, mostly because of distraction and also wanting to control goes on the web. Moth says “pooh pooh” to those thoughts, and so the “distractions” and the “lack of control” have actually led to Moth (and others that videotape) to having great turn outs.

    Charleston Tells Storytelling Festival records the stories of their tellers and posts some online. In their third year they had 900 people attend their festival. Hmm….wonder if there is something there? Thanks for these great posts, Pam. Peace and belief,

    1. Pam Faro Avatar
      Pam Faro

      Great comment, Sheila. Probably very good for more festivals to consider doing this!

  4. Fiona Birchall Avatar
    Fiona Birchall

    I’ve refrained from commenting so far on your posts about slams because I am so much an outsider that I felt too much explanation would be necessary if my comments were not to be taken as deliberately provocative, but this post just begs for a reply from Across the Pond! I am an English traditional storyteller – old in years but young in experience (no more than 4 or 5 years). Much of my training came from a professional who received funding to study particular aspects of storytelling in diverse areas of America & Canada over a period of 2 months. Her most memorable comment on her return was “I thought if I heard yet another personal story I would scream!” She attended many slams and local circles and hungered for traditional tales, but received the impression that these were not popular because of perceived problems over copyright infringement. And having no firsthand experience of my own, I have gone along with this received impression that “most” American storytellers tell only personal stories(since you and Julie are the only ones with whom I have any closer contact, and you know how little that actually is…) So come back to England and prove us wrong!

    1. Pam Faro Avatar
      Pam Faro

      Glad you’re piping up and commenting, Fiona, and welcome! 🙂 Personal stories HAVE grown to be more common as the genre told and heard at storytelling gatherings here, it’s true. I think part of MY realization/reaction is sort of, “Hey, when did that happen? And how? And why?” – ! However, plenty of traditional tales being told all around as well. Thanks for your comment.

  5. Liz Weir Avatar

    Lots of us in the UK and Ireland are very familiar with US tellers who come to visit and share traditional tales eg Dan Keding, Lyn Ford, Dovie Thomason, Joel Ben Izzy and many more. It is a fact that there do seem to be a lot more more personal tales told at places like the Natonal Storytelling Festival than at European festivals, but I don’t think most people on this side of the pond would express surprise at hearing US tellers share folk tales as well as personal tales. I am guessing its just a question of people not being exposed to a wide range of tellers.

    1. Pam Faro Avatar
      Pam Faro

      Just sharing what my experience was that summer of 2012, Liz! It was thought-provoking for me, hence my choosing to share it under my semi-provocative title for this A-to-Z “U” post (!). My hope for this whole A-Z series comparing and contrasting story slams and traditional telling is to provoke thoughts and conversation. Thanks so much for commenting!

  6. David Thompson Avatar
    David Thompson

    I rarely rarely tell personal stories. My repertoire consists of traditional tales, epics, historical tales, and the like. Would love to perform my program of the great women fairytale writers of the late 16th century French salons. They’re a hoot. Oh well. Maybe someday you’all hear the Babylonian creation epic – all 7 tablets.

    1. Pam Faro Avatar
      Pam Faro

      Oh gosh – maybe some day! Thanks so much for commenting – and happy storytelling!

  7. Susan K Coti Avatar

    Very interesting read! Didn’t realize people in the UK have that perception and I’ve been there many times (actually lived near London for 5 years).
    It does seem that the trend here in the US is toward the personal story. The Washington Storytelling Theatre is now defunct and it specialized in traditional stories. SpeakEasy rose from the ashes of the WST, and this organization almost exclusively focuses on personal stories. I like SpeakEasy and their monthly themes, and I’ve written a few personal stories myself. But my first love is the traditional folk tale and always will be.

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      Yes indeed it is!
      And this post is from 2015!
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